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kirara111

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:21 am


How do you think Bush's image will be twenty years from now?

Better? The same? Worse?

Also, what do you think of the ammounts of religion found in politics?

As for the first question:
If it's better: It'll be most likely due to the fact that historians an politicians will look at the good a presidents done after he's been out of office long enough. You never know....

If it's the same: Well, we still don't accept what happened in Vietnam either, do we?

If it's worse: He does something so stupid, we finially pull him out of office and ridicule him as a laughing stock for eternity.

For the other question: Frankly, I don't care for it. This land is "free" 'ya know. I think they should be open about the fact that they have their religion, but that doesn't mean that they should preach about it pertaining to their duties.



PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:57 am


It's a bit early to talk about how Bush will be viewed in twenty years, since he's still in office. It's entirely possible that even more corruption and cronyism will emerge in the next year or so, turning him from merely being a bad president to being the worst ever.

Rhapsody Scarlet


s_coeus

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:12 am


kirara111

Also, what do you think of the amount of religion found in politics?

For the other question: Frankly, I don't care for it. This land is "free" 'ya know. I think they should be open about the fact that they have their religion, but that doesn't mean that they should preach about it pertaining to their duties.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Really though, I think politicians can be as faith-filled as they want, they just shouldn't pass laws on it to force their constituency to do stuff.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:18 am


s_coeus
I find your lack of faith disturbing.


What are you talking about?

Prince Rilian


s_coeus

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:22 am


Rilian
s_coeus
I find your lack of faith disturbing.


What are you talking about?

Star Wars.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:48 am


I think Bush, in twenty years from now, will be doing what every former president is supposed to do- Sitting back and shutting up.

Well, in terms of Better, Same, and Worse, I dont know. I think we have to wait until the war in Iraq is over and if the economy booms like it's supposed to. We're nine trillion dollars in debt, we need that boom.

I think his life is going to be hell. Cindy Sheehan is still going to be hanging outside his house, blaming Bush for her sons death even though he joined the military voluntarily and died fighting for his country.

I really dont think Bush is a Christian. I mean- he might believe in God and Baby Jebus, but he certainly doesnt hold our values.

The Tragic Mime

Dangerous Guildsman


Passion Eternal

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:38 pm


Quote:
What do you think about the amount of religion found in politics?


Seems like a rather loaded question, but I'll answer anyway.

I think that the amount of religion "found" in politics is inevitable. As religious people (be it Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Pagan, etc) we all derive our ethics and morals from our religion. Every time a religions person makes a decision, they first have to stop and measure out all of the pros and cons of their choices against their chosen religion.

Also, whether we like it or not the United States of America was founded on Christian beliefs and as such our country is steeped in the ethics and morals provided therein.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:16 pm


Rhapsody Scarlet
It's a bit early to talk about how Bush will be viewed in twenty years, since he's still in office. It's entirely possible that even more corruption and cronyism will emerge in the next year or so, turning him from merely being a bad president to being the worst ever.
Maybe I did jump the gun a little.... I do agree with you.

kirara111


kirara111

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:21 pm


The Tragic Mime
I think Bush, in twenty years from now, will be doing what every former president is supposed to do- Sitting back and shutting up.

Well, in terms of Better, Same, and Worse, I dont know. I think we have to wait until the war in Iraq is over and if the economy booms like it's supposed to. We're nine trillion dollars in debt, we need that boom.

I think his life is going to be hell. Cindy Sheehan is still going to be hanging outside his house, blaming Bush for her sons death even though he joined the military voluntarily and died fighting for his country.

I really dont think Bush is a Christian. I mean- he might believe in God and Baby Jebus, but he certainly doesnt hold our values.
I can easily see where you're coming from. Every president has to live with their mistakes in office, and Bush is no different. He's just really easy to make fun of, so I doubt he'll hear the end of it.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:26 pm


Sayre_Tianos
Quote:
What do you think about the amount of religion found in politics?


Seems like a rather loaded question, but I'll answer anyway.

I think that the amount of religion "found" in politics is inevitable. As religious people (be it Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Pagan, etc) we all derive our ethics and morals from our religion. Every time a religions person makes a decision, they first have to stop and measure out all of the pros and cons of their choices against their chosen religion.

Also, whether we like it or not the United States of America was founded on Christian beliefs and as such our country is steeped in the ethics and morals provided therein.
yeah... I definitely worded that wrongly. You are absolutely correct though.
I really meant what do you think of the debate about church in general. I wrote this thing at 3:30am. Don't expect perfection. xd I again apologise. Sorry.

kirara111


kirara111

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:48 pm


s_coeus
kirara111

Also, what do you think of the amount of religion found in politics?

For the other question: Frankly, I don't care for it. This land is "free" 'ya know. I think they should be open about the fact that they have their religion, but that doesn't mean that they should preach about it pertaining to their duties.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Really though, I think politicians can be as faith-filled as they want, they just shouldn't pass laws on it to force their constituency to do stuff.
I'm a very disturbing person. xd I do believe that they should have the right to fully follow their religion. It doesn't bother me the fact that they are christian. I just think they should act more like politicians than priests. Sorry if that sounds disturbing, but they should talk more about their insights and possible solutions on problems today, than talking religion. There's really no point to talk about religion in politics because that shouldn't be an issue to begin with. [I know they do talk about these things, but the ammount of religion melded into some speeches is annoying] To be blunt: Less Religion speeches, More discussing issues. Do you see?(sorry for not elaborating enough)
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:52 pm


s_coeus
Rilian
s_coeus
I find your lack of faith disturbing.


What are you talking about?

Star Wars.
xd 3nodding Okay, have fun.

kirara111


s_coeus

PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:21 am


kirara111
s_coeus
kirara111

Also, what do you think of the amount of religion found in politics?

For the other question: Frankly, I don't care for it. This land is "free" 'ya know. I think they should be open about the fact that they have their religion, but that doesn't mean that they should preach about it pertaining to their duties.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Really though, I think politicians can be as faith-filled as they want, they just shouldn't pass laws on it to force their constituency to do stuff.
I'm a very disturbing person. xd I do believe that they should have the right to fully follow their religion. It doesn't bother me the fact that they are christian. I just think they should act more like politicians than priests. Sorry if that sounds disturbing, but they should talk more about their insights and possible solutions on problems today, than talking religion. There's really no point to talk about religion in politics because that shouldn't be an issue to begin with. [I know they do talk about these things, but the ammount of religion melded into some speeches is annoying] To be blunt: Less Religion speeches, More discussing issues. Do you see?(sorry for not elaborating enough)

Haha, I completely agree. I saw an opportunity to put a star wars quote in, and jumped at it. More discussing issues would certainly be nice.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:36 am


kirara111
Sayre_Tianos
Quote:
What do you think about the amount of religion found in politics?


Seems like a rather loaded question, but I'll answer anyway.

I think that the amount of religion "found" in politics is inevitable. As religious people (be it Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Pagan, etc) we all derive our ethics and morals from our religion. Every time a religions person makes a decision, they first have to stop and measure out all of the pros and cons of their choices against their chosen religion.

Also, whether we like it or not the United States of America was founded on Christian beliefs and as such our country is steeped in the ethics and morals provided therein.
yeah... I definitely worded that wrongly. You are absolutely correct though.
I really meant what do you think of the debate about church in general. I wrote this thing at 3:30am. Don't expect perfection. xd I again apologise. Sorry.


Church in general? Hm... I suppose I'd have to say that I'm against organized religion. I dunno. It just seems like the ultimate recipe for disaster. I have nothing against religion, itself. Nothing against Christianity or the Church. But it just makes me nervous when people come together to worship. While it provides a great sense of community, I also see how people just begin to follow blindly instead of thinking for themselves... And that's never a good sign.

Hm... yep. Send in the flames. Sayre wants to roast marshmallows. And I'm pretty sure I still didn't answer the correct question. But there's my opinion, anyway. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:18 pm


Bush's image? It's bad now, it'll still be bad 20 years from now. Probably not as bad though, because he'll be out of the public focus. And we'll miss making fun of him. Which brings me to another point. Even though Bush seems like an idiot, he's not. Nor is the forgetful Attorney General in as much of a superficial position as he claims to be. They'd just rather say they don't remember, or have us think they're idiots than actually tell us anything.
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