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 Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:56 pm
I am an anarchist, well i say that but actually i simpley belive that the world needs to become a single Anarchist area without set country/continent borders.
I am also not just a teen (although i am only 16) in a punk rock phase who starts shouting words that he/she dosen't understand. Quite the opposite i have looked into it quite far and, seeing the way the worlds political groups are acting at this time, belive that a world war 3 is comming in the near future this however isnt the subject of this post it just leads onto the subject which is that if a war were to take place then any survivors would be required to abandon the current lifestyle and embrace an Anarcho-primitivistic approach.
Anarcho-primitivism is the idea that people should live in small,individually-run tribes of anywhere 10-50 people (usually related). This was strongly opposed orriginaly by the quality of life that of hunter-gatherers however it has recentley been proven that hunter-gatherer lives left the most time out of almost anyother lifestyle for games/sport/etc. (see "Dwellers in the Land: The Bioregional Vision")
so please discuss:
Anarchy
Anarcho-primitivism
Alternative government's
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:05 pm
Perhaps that could work if people were willing to give up technology and live a primative way of life. However with the technology and social order today, not to mention MONEY, there has to be some sort of control over it. I rather not have someone able to shoot me and run away gleefully away without any punishment.
In my opinion, I would rather have communism. Everyone gets this amount of this, don't complain.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:21 pm
Communism is nice in theory, but it never works. Mostly because people are greedy and lazy in my opinion.
Anarchism, at least how you put it, would not work. Nobody is going to accept returning to some primitive hunter-gatherer tribe lifestyle. Do you know how tough of a life that is? Thats why most civilizations got out of it thousands of years ago. Put simply, it sucks, hard.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:45 pm
Absolute monarchism is the only thing that would completely work in the world. Every single human in the world needs to know where they belong...and if they don't they may step out of line.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:02 pm
I belong wherever I want to be.
I <3 anarchy.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:21 pm
No, anarchy would never work. If by work you mean "people living harmoniously together". Humans are, by nature, social animals. We'll come together, and the strongest among us will assert dominance. There's government. It just comes about naturaly, it's unavoidable.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:38 pm
Siphilis No, anarchy would never work. If by work you mean "people living harmoniously together". Humans are, by nature, social animals. We'll come together, and the strongest among us will assert dominance. There's government. It just comes about naturaly, it's unavoidable. Seconded - even if somehow, we changed into some sort of anarchist-non-state (even though in my opinion the transition to such an entity would either destroy us/revert back to statism) it would be impossible to keep people from rising up and claiming leadership without someone to keep them down, thus voiding its anarchyness. They're all really pipe dreams though. Communism, Anarchy, Dedevelopment, etc. The best we can hope for is to get off the rock with a clean slate, cuz we're going nowhere but towards V for Vendetta real quick.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:13 am
I don't believe Anarchy would work well, if at all. It sounds fun to continually say "NO GOVERMENT!!!11111ONEONOENE", but what would we do without one?
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:57 pm
Both Anarchy and Communism would work fantastically if not for the selfish nature of human beings.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:49 pm
Grott Both Anarchy and Communism would work fantastically if not for the selfish nature of human beings. Communism at least, if Anarchy worked than governments would not of formed. And with out government we would not have such a world we have now, not just war and strife. But technology and medicine. That's why Anarchy is such a childish dream, you can't achieve it. Even tribes have a form of government. Anarchy would just be people acting on whim. You don't like somebody, kill them, you think somebody is hot. Rape them..
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:28 pm
Anarchy could only work if every person had a healthy sense of self and no need to lead or be told what to do. Without that you have follower types running circles because they have no idea what to do and leader types fighting with each other and getting even less done because they are all equals with equally different opinions and no way of deciding which takes priority.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:24 pm
Lehr Grott Both Anarchy and Communism would work fantastically if not for the selfish nature of human beings. Communism at least, if Anarchy worked than governments would not of formed. And with out government we would not have such a world we have now, not just war and strife. But technology and medicine. That's why Anarchy is such a childish dream, you can't achieve it. Even tribes have a form of government. Anarchy would just be people acting on whim. You don't like somebody, kill them, you think somebody is hot. Rape them.. You... Basically just supported my statement on both counts. Murder and rape would stem from that selfish nature of human beings.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:35 pm
I'm not quite sure I understand how the concept of anarchy could work. Just a bunch of individual people wandering around? Huh? And yeah, rape and murder and all that nice stuff.
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:35 pm
Kiyrugoji I don't believe Anarchy would work well, if at all. It sounds fun to continually say "NO GOVERMENT!!!11111ONEONOENE", but what would we do without one? Drink, kill, steal, rape, and sodomize others without getting in trouble. Actually, I think I'm starting to like this whole "Anarchy" thing.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:58 am
Vajra B. Hairava I'm not quite sure I understand how the concept of anarchy could work. Just a bunch of individual people wandering around? Huh? And yeah, rape and murder and all that nice stuff. Well with anarcho-primitivism the idea is that each tribe will decide how it is to be run (e.g. a small group of leaders, a monarch, an elected leader, etc.) this would mean that these crimes would be discovered, trialed and a suitable punishment would be dealt.
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