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 Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:20 pm
I've been in 3 different schools, not counting Pre-k. The first one was Adventist and the other 2, Christians. In all 3 of them they ''condemn'' homosexuality, but in the Christian ones they teach us; ''God is love''. they're like contradicting themselves unless what they really condemn is the pleasure u get in doing so. I don't mean to say pleasures wrong, but doing things regardless of anything else except for obtaining pleasure, sometimes kinda seems off, i guess... anyway if God is love then homosexuality can't be all wrong (atleast for those who really love their mate) cuz the love in a homosexual relationship, is the same as love in a heterosexual relationship, so how can they start off condemning homosexuals... ? Its like judging a book by its cover. (Then again, correct me if I'm wrong)
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:33 pm
you've definitely wandered into the right Guild for this kind of Discussion. I personally don't believe that Homosexuals are condemned by God, nor do I find 'pleasure' wrong(at least not in the sense that most Christian Congregations will). I do believe that sexual relations should remain with only the people you love the most(as opposed to those that sleep around...dangerous territory, that is), and if someone's good enough to sleep with, they're good enough to Marry.
Back on Topic now. Homosexuality is at best considered a Sin because of people taking scripture out of context, and perverting the Word of God to mean what they want it to. Westborou Baptist is probably the best Example of this. If I'm interpreting History correctly, Homosexuality was first condemned around the time of the Black Plague, when people were hunting for scape goats as to why God's Wrath was on the Earth. It just kinda moved on from there.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:28 pm
Quote: Homosexuality was first condemned around the time of the Black Plague homosexuality was first outlawed in Rome by Theodosius in 390 AD. i think that might be the earliest. i'm actually reading a book right now called "Moral Choices" that discusses homosexuality, amongst other ethical issues like cloning, abortion, and pre-marital sex. i haven't read it completely, but it's interesting because it acknowledges loving, committed homosexual relationships (which i don't deny the existence of). i haven't completely finished the chapter where it gets to the good stuff though.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:12 pm
i like burnination Quote: Homosexuality was first condemned around the time of the Black Plague homosexuality was first outlawed in Rome by Theodosius in 390 AD. i think that might be the earliest. i'm actually reading a book right now called "Moral Choices" that discusses homosexuality, amongst other ethical issues like cloning, abortion, and pre-marital sex. i haven't read it completely, but it's interesting because it acknowledges loving, committed homosexual relationships (which i don't deny the existence of). i haven't completely finished the chapter where it gets to the good stuff though. Unless it's plastic-wrapped, there is no good stuff. ^-^
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:51 pm
Shiroi Kokoro no Mendori Unless it's plastic-wrapped, there is no good stuff. ^-^ now THAT went over my head. o__o;
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:59 pm
i like burnination Shiroi Kokoro no Mendori Unless it's plastic-wrapped, there is no good stuff. ^-^ now THAT went over my head. o__o; Think about it. What is generally plastic-wrapped when it is sold, so underage people can't see it?
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:08 pm
Shiroi Kokoro no Mendori i like burnination Shiroi Kokoro no Mendori Unless it's plastic-wrapped, there is no good stuff. ^-^ now THAT went over my head. o__o; Think about it. What is generally plastic-wrapped when it is sold, so underage people can't see it? you have a dirty mind. :B
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:04 am
i like burnination Quote: Homosexuality was first condemned around the time of the Black Plague homosexuality was first outlawed in Rome by Theodosius in 390 AD. i think that might be the earliest. i'm actually reading a book right now called "Moral Choices" that discusses homosexuality, amongst other ethical issues like cloning, abortion, and pre-marital sex. i haven't read it completely, but it's interesting because it acknowledges loving, committed homosexual relationships (which i don't deny the existence of). i haven't completely finished the chapter where it gets to the good stuff though. August 6th, 390 AD, banishing passive Homosexuals. Wikipedia is confuzzling me. Who's reign ended first, Justinian I or Anastasius I? confused
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:43 am
Se Ga Takai August 6th, 390 AD, banishing passive Homosexuals. ah. whoops. Se Ga Takai Wikipedia is confuzzling me. Who's reign ended first, Justinian I or Anastasius I? confused Anastasius I: 491 - 518 Justinian I: 527 - 565
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:29 pm
i like burnination Se Ga Takai August 6th, 390 AD, banishing passive Homosexuals. ah. whoops. Se Ga Takai Wikipedia is confuzzling me. Who's reign ended first, Justinian I or Anastasius I? confused Anastasius I: 491 - 518 Justinian I: 527 - 565 thaz what I thought, but it says after talking about Justinian I's rule that taxes were still collected from the little boy bordello's until the end of Anastasius's reign. I dunno if it's a crossed wire in my brain, or it's Wikipedia at fault. Meh, I need to make dinner anyway, too much to deal with right now... gonk
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:14 pm
Se Ga Takai after talking about Justinian I's rule that taxes were still collected from the little boy bordello's until the end of Anastasius's reign. I dunno if it's a crossed wire in my brain, or it's Wikipedia at fault. Meh, I need to make dinner anyway, too much to deal with right now... gonk probably a wikipedia error. That's the sad and awesome thing about Wikipedia...it's user editied... For a while, John Deere's page listed him as from "____, WA, the most awesome town in the world because ____ lives there." ((I'm from __, and I know the __ that changed the post to frustrate a friend's effort to gather info for a report. XD ))
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:23 pm
thats a question that troubles me every time I pray. "homosexuality", I hate that word, that word made me lose so many friends... see I used to live a "straight and narrow" life, I was a Sunday school teacher, went to church 3-5 times a week and I was engaged to a guy. but that wasn't right for me, and I started to be honest with myself. being with a man never felt right, but I was with my fiancee because I thought that was what God wanted. to make a long story short (or not so long) I broke up with my fiancee and later came out as a lesbian. I lost my friends, parents didn't want me near their kids and now every time I return to that church everyone swarms around me to pray the homosexuality out of me. back to that homosexuality question, I dont know the answer. I know that I did't leave that church because of my "sins", I left because I don't like that way I am treated there anymore. and I don't understand how I can be sinfull when god made me this way, I tried to be straight, it didn't work, all I know is that I am not this way for pleasure. I have been with my partner for almost two years now and I love her deeply. I've asked god through prayer if I'm doing something wrong and Ive never had an answer, so I'm just hoping that God understands.
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:13 pm
This is a tough issue. There are many arguments for each side and so it very hard to wade through all the facts/lies and discover the truth. Ultimately its Gods decision, we can only make the best choices from what we know. Many translations of the bible openly condemn homosexuality, but there have been disputes as to whether or not they have been translated properly. My view is that if homosexuality is indeed a sin, like all sins it can be broken in time, and as long as you are walking in Christ all sins can be forgiven. That is why I think it is terrible for a Church to shun someone for any sin. It is counter productive from what Christ asks us to which is to make disciples and believers in God, instead they are turning people away and how would God look on them then.
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